I sat down about 3 and at 345 I started to hear grunting in the thicket behind me so I bantered back and forth with him for 30 mins or so and then he went silent till about 5 and he started grunting again so we bantered for a few and then in walks a little spike I got a little laugh watched him for a few minutes when he stopped a starred at the thicket where the grunting was coming from was hopeful and in walks this guy not sure what I did but my first aarow ended up in the dirt so I reloaded my bow and took a 2nd shot and got him!!