Stopped shooting 8 points 4 years ago as a personal goal to go after a true 10 point. It tested my patience, self control and after passing 30+ bucks after 4 seasons I was about to give up when this 10 point got pushed out of a thicket by my neighbor at 10:30am, found 5 doe in my woods and miraculously pushed them directly to me leaving me a 45 yard shot and my hunt for a 10 point came to a close!