My 13 yr old grandson shot his first buck. It came out following a big doe at 4:30 I told him it was ok to shoot as soon as I stopped him. He even tracked and found it himself. (With a little guidance from grandma). It only went 40 yds. This is his third year hunting and he’s worked really hard. First year he missed a couple of lady years he got a doe. Very proud grandma here!