He came in from off in the distance chasing a doe and he was about 80 yards out and i waited for a clearing to shoot him. I shot him at 80 yards and he went five feet and dropped. Once I shot him, the doe he was chasing came in at 20 yards and gave me a perfect shot, she went 45 yards and did a backflip. My first two deer with my 450 and I’m hooked on that gun