Took my nephew’s out on Thanksgiving morning didn’t plan on seeing anything as they made so much noise walking in one of them tripped over a stick and fell 2 different times so we picked a tree in an open field about 50 yards down the trail and my nephew spotted the 8 point bedding about 45 yards from us as he stood up he was rubbing on a tree well the hunt lasted less then 30 minutes from the time we got out of the truck and we scored a big 8 on public land best Thanksgiving ever in Kalamazoo County